Sunday, May 03, 2009

The Ashbory

It's been eight months since the last time I posted anything. Wow. That's a new record. I might, but probably won't, write something about what exactly it was that led to such silence, but I'll sum it up as an effective combination of business, ennui, and overwhelming lack of motivation.

The natural question is, why am I posting now? Well, since last night, I have had a burning interest in Ashbory basses. I was merely minding my business, window shopping for new electric bass at Elderly Instruments, when I saw a bizarre shaped bass.

DeArmond AshboryNow, it's not unusual to see a strangely shaped guitar or bass. Even casual observers have seen plenty of unorthodox body shapes, let alone amateur enthusiasts such as myself. It wasn't really the shape that struck me, so much as the shape coupled with the Fender brand name. "Surely," I thought to myself, "There isn't a Fender bass that I'm completely unaware of?"

That was enough for me to look a bit closer. And the mystery developed. Not only did this seem to be a Fender bass I had never heard of, but it has... Silicone strings? I'd never heard of that before. Never even thought something like that could be a possibility. Mildly curious, I sent a text to my dad asking if he'd ever heard of silicone strings before, and he professed that he had not.

I forgot about it for a few hours. But at the back of my mind, it nagged at me. Silicone strings? What is this? So I Googled it. Read the Ashbory Wikipedia page. And I became deeply fascinated. I don't want to recap all the information I picked up, but maybe just talk about some of the things that I found particularly interesting.


Gummy BassFirst of all, it turns out that silicone strings are pretty awesome. They're lower tension, so the neck doesn't even need a truss rod. They also last much longer than metal strings - supposedly, up to decades. The downside is that, rather than the 2-3 days it takes for metal strings to stabilize after restringing, it can take silicone strings 2-3 weeks. Also a bonus for a traditionalist like me, silicone strings are best suited for finger plucking, and don't reward picking.

It's also not really a Fender. Long story short, Ashborys were almost made by Martin, but the deal fell through. Then Guild Guitars got a manufacturing deal. That kind of dead-ended, but fortunately, when Fender bought Guild, the creators had a contact that got them in touch with some important people in Fender's DeArmond name, who were responsible for all of the Guild properties. Thus the Ashbory was revived under the DeArmond name.

It also turns out that Ashborys sound completely awesome. The silicone strings give it an unbelievable acoustic upright bass tone that I've never heard from a bass guitar before, let alone a ukulele-sized instrument. The active electronics play a part, of course, but from what I've seen and heard it seems to primarily be the resonant quality of the strings.

I very strongly recommend reading the history of the Ashbory. It's a fascinating read by Nigel Thornbury, co-creator of the instrument. Also take a look at the list of famous players/owners; names like Jack Bruce, Doug Wimbish, David Gilmour, Nathan East, Les Claypool, and Bootsy Collins(!) prove that the Ashbory is much more than a novelty.

I've already resolved that I have to playtest one over the summer, and I desperately want to spend a paycheck on it. (By the way, don't buy one from Elderly Instruments; they seem to be about a hundred dollars over-priced.) I wish I had first-hand experience to add value to my inflamed posting, and if I do acquire an Ashbory over the summer, I'll have to follow up.


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9 Comments:

At 5/03/2009 11:47 PM , Blogger Gus said...

Today was the first time I've checked your blog in months. WHY ARE WE PSIONICALLY LINKED AND WHY CAN"T WE HARNESS THIS POWER?

 
At 5/03/2009 11:48 PM , Blogger Gus said...

Also the Ashbory looks awesome, I would like to come with you when you get this first-hand experience.

 
At 5/03/2009 11:59 PM , Blogger Dougie said...

That's weird, man. I dunno, we've gotta come up with some kind of Cerebro or whatever that thing is called. And hell yeah, if I get one I'm taking that sucker everywhere.

 
At 5/04/2009 8:23 AM , Blogger smokey primrose said...

as a former ashbory owner, some thoughts. first, they can sound quite fabulous, but ... and there are buts: the strings are by nature sticky, the way around that is to coat the strings with baby powder, which works, but is quite a mess. next, the incredibly short scale makes it almost impossible to play in tune up the neck. lastly, it's not terribly well balanced, with a severe "neck dive" ... you can help this along by placing a small bag of lead shot in the control cavity. was fun while it lasted ...

 
At 5/04/2009 1:46 PM , Blogger Dougie said...

I had heard about the baby powder thing, but I figured that wouldn't be too hard to deal with. Did you use generic talc powder or the Slyde-Rite that they sell on the website?

Is playing up the neck really that hard? I've been working a lot on ignoring frets and just playing by ear, does that make any difference since the Ashbory is fretless? I had heard that the fret markings can be misleading.

The balance issue does sound annoying. Thanks for the tip, though. It's awesome that an actual Ashbory owner commented!

 
At 5/04/2009 1:56 PM , Blogger smokey primrose said...

generic talc is cool.

the marking are a loose reference. the super short scale magnifies any intonation issues ... add the floppy, inconsistent strings and ...it's not easy. if you're cool with just thunking out roots, it works just fine, but .... it is a challenge ... at the end of the day, if you want something that sounds like a double bass, you gotta learn to play a double bass.

 
At 5/04/2009 9:09 PM , Blogger Dougie said...

Hmm. I'll have to playtest it, that does sound problematic. I'm certainly going to want to do more than play roots. Do you know any good electric upright basses? An acoustic double bass is just not an option with my tiny dorm room.

 
At 10/23/2009 7:52 AM , Blogger Tiber Jumper said...

I was a kid when the Ashbory by Guild first came out. It seemed really cool but no one I knew bought one and the price was too much. they faded away, and I lost track of them.
30 years later here they are! Very cool. Nice info, thanks

 
At 10/29/2009 2:12 PM , Blogger Dougie said...

Hah, I'm glad you liked it. From everything I've read, you might have dodged a bullet - the Guilds were notoriously awful, mostly because they were made with ukulele tuners instead of geared bass tuners. Even for collectors they aren't worth more now than they were then.

They are pretty damn cool though, I'm hoping I can pick one up in the next few months.

 

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